dude you're so totally right about all of that. and that's one of my best memories of 2006 too!
god red thread is amazing.
Over a year later, I'm still mad that I couldn't come down from Baltimore to see the Red Thread/Hey Girl show in DC, though I did get to see both bands this past summer! Hey Girl in SF was definitely in the top ten most fun shows I've been to this year, they played this rad space with the whole room dancing to both them and Connie Fuckin Francis (exactly what it sounds like, a tranny-fronted Connie Francis cover band) who opened.
I'm hoping to get Red Thread down here again at some point this fall/winter.
I think they were saying something about that.
I'm honestly not into the second demo as much, it has a different vibe and lacks the sense of cathartic fun and spontaneity that the first one had, but I'm still excited to see them again.
fuck yeah on the op ivy and green day. i'm into everything green day's done up to (and including) dookie.
that's awesome that you're doing a zine. i can't wait to read it. i understand if you want to save your words for your zine, but the offer to contribute to mine in any way still stands.
I actually think everything up through Nimrod is listenable, though Dookie and everything after doesn't have the same party potential. I've never heard "Warning," but I think "American Idiot" is a bogus attempt to be some sort of Queen/The Who/Bryan Adams/maybe even Don McLean-inspired epic statement, and NOFX beat them to the whole punk rock opera thing for better or worse.
I figured my "goodbye to DC" piece could go both in my zine and yours, and maybe one or two other things as well. I'm doing a DC scene report for mine that I wouldn't mind a collaborator on as well.
i agree about american idiot 100%. warning was some straight LOL material. i know some people who recently saw them live and they said it the guys from green day flying around on zipties over the orchestra. i'm glad i didn't go, as it would have ruined the image in my head of my favorite band (circa 12 years old).
i would actually prefer that you just use the piece for yours. i hate overlapping material in zines. i get so bummed when i find the same thing twice. it's just a pet peeve. but that dc scene report sounds interesting. i don't know of anyone even attempting to do that!
Hey, question, who are you?! I noticed you read my journal and we have things in common, and I like what you have to say, so I added you back. But I suppose questioning if this is someone I know or not isn't a terrible idea...
Hey it's cool, I probably should've left an introductory comment.
I'm Dan, I don't think we have met before, but I came across your journal I think through searching for people with one of your interests, and really like what you write about (both what you have to say and what you do with yourself), and it looks like we have Chris Voss as a mutual friend on here.
Reading your journal also makes me miss the Bay Area even more, but also excited that I'm finally moving there early next year. I used to live in Olympia and have visited at least least 2-3 times a year for the past few years and probably feel more at home there than anywhere. I had planned to move there a couple of years ago, long story why I didn't and ended up in Maryland instead that I'll tell you at some point.
Off topic, but in one of your entries, you said something about Warm Water Cove getting "painted over," I'm assuming this is that long wall with all the graffiti.
When I was in SF earlier this summer I noticed a new Muni line that goes down 3rd (a telltale sign of gentrification) and some kids told me about a couple of Cove shows this year getting severely busted.
Is it pretty much the end of shows there?
That is/was possibly my favorite place to see shows in the world.
They Bay Area is great, I feel rather lucky to have grown up here. Are you moving to San Francisco, or somewhere else? One of my close friends is from Baltimore, I don't know if that is where you are in Maryland or not.
Yeah they are trying to clean up the area surrounding Warm Water Cove... in all the wrong ways. And yes, you are right about the shows there. When I went down there the day before the 'paint out' there were security guards patroling the little parking lot before the cove. I don't know if it is the end of shows there entirely, I sure hope not.
I'd settle for the East Bay, but I really want to try and live in SF proper. Even though it's more expensive, I feel like I'd have way more fun and save money in other ways, as the city seems more compact and minimum wage is higher. I work at a worker-owned food co-op now, and want to try and work at Rainbow Grocery or Other Avenues or something.
Who is your friend in Baltimore?
I lived there for eight months when I first moved to the east coast, but have lived right outside of DC since January. The main things keeping me here right now are my $80 rent and the fact that my job pays $10.50 an hour and I volunteer for food instead of paying cash, which allowed me to spend two months this summer traveling and will let me take a couple of trips in the fall as well as save up to move back to the better coast.
I figured WWC getting "cleaned up" at some point was inevitable, I remember reading something about that third street line back in 2005, but it still sucks that it's happening and especially before I'll have lived in the city.
Now that Burnt Ramen is also having way less shows, have any new venues popped up to replace the old ones?
"The main things keeping me here right now are my $80 rent and the fact that my job pays $10.50 an hour and I volunteer for food instead of paying cash"
That depresses me. Life would be so much better if that were the living conditions here.
Neil Aviles is my friend's name. I don't know, he may have moved out here around the time you moved there.
No new venues have really popped up. Bands typically play at bars or Gilman. The occasional house show, and even less frequent are the shows at Burnt Ramen. We are in desperate need of another all ages venue, that is less strict than Gilman, because it really scares people off. I, sadly, have a lot of friends who consider drinking a very essential part of going to shows, and refuse to go to Gilman since they will be hassled even in their cars down the street.
It's definitely easy and I actually do feel a little guilty, but it's in no way worth staying in an area that is OK but not really what I want. I live in a storage closet that is big enough for my stuff, and the rest of the rooms in my house (six of them) are $240 each, but the number of other people in the DC area I know who even pay under $400 I can count on one hand.
I've been hearing about more generator shows at places like the Albany landfill, some gazebo, a bus, and I think there was one at ocean beach off of Judah in the wee hours of Sunday morning. Gilman is amazing for what it is, and I completely understand why their rules are in place, but shows there are definitely more subdued compared to others I've been to in the Bay Area, which to me has just as much to do with the vibe that simply comes with there being other rules like "no stagediving" and knowing you're being watched by security. When I was out there, I saw the Magrudergrind/I Object/Acts of Sedition show at Gilman, and wish I could've seen the one at HazMat the next night and compared the crowds, though I did see another show there while I was in town.
Yeah, I totally understand the rules of Gilman, and why they are there... because when you look at it, Gilman is the only real, lasting venue. It's essential to keep it open. But people are being watched there, and it makes it feel less like a peer run location, and back to someone in charge.
I was definitely at that show. And also, went to a different show in Santa Cruz the following day instead of going to the Hazmat. What show did you see at the Hazmat?
I also heard of the Ocean Beach show, but I was pretty sick. I didn't know who was playing but it would have been a fun spur of the moment deal had I not been puking.
man I love the Blatz.
I get kooky about the old stuff.
Looking forward to seeing you!
i was at a metal show maybe four or five months ago, and somebody put op ivy on the PA in between bands and everyone in the room started singing along. it was the weirdest/awesomest thing ever!
That is awesome.
Sorry I've been so flaky about calling, I've gotten more busy and it sucks, but you'll hear from me soon. Your mixtape is 3/4ths done.
Operation Ivy (op ivy bothers me for some weird michelle reason) has/is a major pick me up feel better about myself and life. When I first getting into punk my friends and I would go to the beach with a boombox and blast Operation Ivy and that is how we met punks visiting with their parents. Kerplunk is a record I could listen to for the rest of my life.
That is such a cool story. Did it work often?
i'm glad to hear your zine is doing well, when are you coming to visit orlando?!?
Definitely coming to TIFY at the latest, I'm hoping late November/early December but am not sure.
Everything up to and including Nimrod: Awesome.
Their song/comic on their side of the Dillinger Four split is possibly the best thing ever.